Today we're talking with Jason Brewer and Zac Boehnke of Wandering Monsters Brewing in Cincinnati, Ohio. Jason and Zac share the most important thing they've learned when working with cacao and other flavor ingredients, and the storytelling that's possible with these beers.

In this episode, Jason Brewer and Zac Boenhke of Wandering Monsters Brewing in Cincinnati talk about how they approach brewing with cacao nibs, vanilla, and other flavor ingredients, how their high concept adjunct stouts come together, where they source their cacao, and why beers of this type are worth taking seriously and approaching thoughtfully.